HP shooting: Illinois Red Flag laws lame, so are the shooter's family.
To take away someone's guns under the Illinois Red Flag laws you need to be convicted of a felony or committed to a mental institution. That inspire confidence? It's ok to threaten to kill people, post sick deranged stuff on social media. No, no, no...can't take a large gun stash from someone who's "a wee little disturbed". Better to take a wait and see approach!
How about Crimo's supposedly upstanding family? Like his dad who sponsored his recent FOID application for a 4th semi automatic rifle 3 months ago (after his son had threatened to kill the entire family). Honestly, this scumbag family had a pretty good idea that their son was a ticking time bomb and did zero. Well done folks...sleep well.
Oh yes, this fine example of fatherhood actually ran for Mayor in Highland Park a number of years ago. Too bad he was unsuccessful.
Purchase of rifle allegedly used in Highland Park massacre highlights limits of Illinois gun laws
By Annie Sweeney, William Lee and Megan Crepeau
A day after a gunman fired 70 rounds into a crowd at the Highland Park Independence Day parade, concerns and questions began to emerge about the availability of high-capacity firepower in Illinois, including whether existing rules and laws around background checks are enough to protect the public.
New details about the purchase of the firearm allegedly used came as authorities formally charged Robert Crimo III with seven counts of murder in the mass shooting.
Authorities said Crimo legally purchased the high-powered rifle he allegedly used to shoot more than three dozen people, including seven who were killed. And he did so even after a threatening episode was reported to Highland Park police, who in turn notified Illinois State Police, and after authorities had been alerted to him being suicidal.
It appeared that existing law — including the state’s so-called red flag law — wasn’t used to take weapons away from Crimo, long before he allegedly perched atop a roof along the parade route and opened fire. And current laws did nothing to head off his purchase of weapons, even in politically blue Illinois.
Illinois State Police on Tuesday confirmed they had received a warning from Highland Park police about Crimo three months before he successfully applied for a firearm owner’s identification card with the help of his father. Illinois State Police administer that process.
When asked if ISP reviewed the “Clear and Present Danger” report from Highland Park police when considering Crimo’s subsequent FOID application, a state police spokesperson responded: “At the time the FOID application was submitted, there was not a clear and present danger.”
The rifle was one of five firearms Crimo had purchased, authorities said. The rifle he allegedly used Monday, along with a second one, was purchased in the Chicago area, law enforcement authorities said, without naming a gun shop.
Crimo would have had to pass a criminal-background check, both to secure an Illinois gun permit, or FOID card, and to make the purchase. Generally, it takes a felony conviction or committal to a mental facility to bar someone from having a firearm in the state, experts said.
But an emerging picture of a very troubled background, including not only chilling online video postings about gun violence but also an attempted suicide and a threat on a family member with knives, raised questions about Illinois’ gun-permit system.
Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine professor Lori Ann Post, who has studied decades of mass-shooting events, said the story playing out in Highland Park fits an all-too-familiar pattern of failing to identify and act to prevent those who should not be carrying firearms from doing so.
“We look backwards and it makes sense that he did this,” Post said. “But what we have to do is identify this ongoing, escalating socially deviant behavior. We are absolutely failing.”
Law enforcement authorities on Tuesday began to provide more details about the firearms purchased by Crimo, as well as two calls to his home when he allegedly made threats on both himself and others.
Crimo purchased the rifle used in the assault around 2020 and 2021, according to Sgt. Chris Covelli, the spokesman for the Lake County Major Crimes Task Force. Covelli did not provide the exact location or dates of the purchase.
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Covelli, speaking at a press briefing, also said that a year or so prior, in April 2019, police were called because Crimo had attempted suicide, which resulted in Highland Park police visiting his home. The family assured the responders that they were seeking help from mental health authorities, police said.
Five months later, police were again called to Crimo’s home because he was threatening to kill people, Covelli said. Responding officers also confiscated 16 knives, a dagger and a sword from the home.
Covelli said police did not have probable cause to make an arrest and also that no one signed a complaint against Crimo. But Highland Park police did notify Illinois State Police, the agency that issues Illinois gun permits, about the incident.
“Highland Park police notified Illinois State Police,” Covelli said, when pressed by reporters for details. “Where it goes from there, I don’t want to speak to.”
Steven Greenberg, who represents Crimo’s parents, said Crimo lived with his mother at the time of the purported threats and the knives’ confiscation. Crimo’s father did not know about the incident when he sponsored his son’s FOID application a few months later, according to Greenberg.
Illinois’ red flag law, which has existed since 2019, is designed so that people can ask a civil court to intervene and remove firearms from someone who appears to be a danger to themselves or others, experts said.
Late in the day Tuesday, the Illinois State Police issued a statement, confirming it received a “clear and present” danger warning in September 2019 about Crimo after the Highland Park visit to the home. At that time, Crimo did not have a FOID card.
“The report was related to threats the subject made against his family. There were no arrests made in the September 2019 incident and no one, including family, was willing to move forward on a complaint nor did they subsequently provide information on threats or mental health that would have allowed law enforcement to take additional action,” including revoking a FOID card, because Crimo didn’t yet have one, the statement read. “Additionally, no Firearms Restraining Order was filed, nor any order of protection.”
But three months later, in December 2019, Crimo applied for a FOID card, the statement said.
“The subject was under 21 and the application was sponsored by the subject’s father. Therefore, at the time of FOID application review in January of 2020, there was insufficient basis to establish a clear and present danger and deny the FOID application,” the statement said.
According to a second Illinois State Police statement issued late Tuesday evening, a report from Highland Park police said Crimo’s father told them the confiscated knives belonged to him. The report also said the knives were returned to the father.
When asked if state police reviewed the September 2019 report when considering Crimo’s FOID application, a spokesperson responded: “At the time the FOID application was submitted, there was not a clear and present danger.”
The situation had an immediate impact in the political realm, as Gov. J.B. Pritzker released a statement pledging to strengthen rules on the books here.
“Unfortunately, every time a mass shooting occurs it serves as a stark reminder that our gun laws often fall short of the rigorous standards that feel like common sense to most Americans,” the statement read. “I call on all Illinoisans to learn about and use the Illinois Firearm Restraining Order Act already in law to alert authorities to dangerous individuals with guns. My administration will work with the General Assembly to ensure we take on the gun lobby and do everything we can to further strengthen our gun control and red flag laws.”
A clear and present danger report from September 2019 would not necessarily have been legal grounds for the state police to deny Crimo a FOID card when he applied a few months later, said Robert Deters, a Lake County criminal defense attorney who often handles FOID appeals.
Besides, Deters said, it is likely that state police did not even retain records of the clear and present danger report for very long after receiving it.
“(ISP’s) Firearms Services Bureau is an overwhelmed mess of a bureaucratic office,” he said. “... What was already a very slow process has gotten excruciatingly so, and I have no idea what their level of integration is for keeping track of these things. My guess is very little.”
The clear and present danger report would not have shown up on the typical law enforcement background check that is conducted for FOID applications, Deters said. Even if Crimo had been arrested after the incident with the knives, but not charged, the arrest would have shown up on the background check — but it would not have any further detail, according to Deters.
“They couldn’t even look at that and say he threatened to kill people,” he said.
For Post, and other experts interviewed by the Tribune, the notification highlights how even a system trying to respond fails.
“I think it is great that police made the call and that it is unfortunate it didn’t go any further,” Post said. “We need a system for reporting up.”
Illinois followed other states in enacting such a law, and studies are now emerging about the use of these interventions, said Daniel Webster, co-director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Solutions.
Webster said there is “compelling data” showing that people across the country are using the laws to intervene with loved ones who are threatening violence, including mass shootings.
Webster and others said Crimo’s online postings likely could have been used to seek a court order to seek Crimo’s weapons.
In announcing charges Tuesday afternoon, Lake County State’s Attorney Eric Reinhart also spoke pointedly about the state’s red flag law.
“Illinois has a strong red flag law that keeps communities safe and respects everyone’s rights,” Reinhart said. “We must vastly increase awareness and education about this red flag law.”